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post Nov 24 2006, 06:08 PM
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Where any 3/504th paratroopers involved in the fighting on Biazza Ridge?

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post Nov 25 2006, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(Stuay @ Nov 24 2006, 07:08 PM) *
Where any 3/504th paratroopers involved in the fighting on Biazza Ridge?

Stu Kohn



Yes, that famous photo with all those 505th troopers on a German tank has a few 3rd Bn. troopers on it one of them I beleive is David "Rosie" Rosenkrantz. I'll see if I can find a photo of it online to post here.
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post Nov 25 2006, 01:33 PM
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Stu,

Just searched my forum and found that Phil had posted this on here. In that Tank photo you can see his uncle. I still can't find it online.

"Another great new book that is about the 504 in Sicily is "Combat Jump" by Ed Rugerro. If it was reviewed somewhere else on this site, I missed it.

Awesome book and it even has a picture by a captured Tiger tank on the cover and inside that includes some H/504 guys, including my uncle.

The book is mainly about the 505, but 3/504 was attached to them in Sicily. The battle of Biazza Ridge is explained in detail...great stuff.

This book is a classic WWII paratrooper book. It really shares a lot about how Sicily proved the value of the paratroopers to our success in Europe. Gavin is painted in a very good light as well.

If you have any interest in studying military leadership and the 82nd Airborne in WWII, this book is a must."


If you want to contact Phil Rosenkrantz just click on his name and the forum will let you email him.

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post Nov 26 2006, 01:26 AM
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Stu,

Just searched my forum and found that Phil had posted this on here. In that Tank photo you can see his uncle. I still can't find it online.

"Another great new book that is about the 504 in Sicily is "Combat Jump" by Ed Rugerro. If it was reviewed somewhere else on this site, I missed it.

Awesome book and it even has a picture by a captured Tiger tank on the cover and inside that includes some H/504 guys, including my uncle.

The book is mainly about the 505, but 3/504 was attached to them in Sicily. The battle of Biazza Ridge is explained in detail...great stuff.

This book is a classic WWII paratrooper book. It really shares a lot about how Sicily proved the value of the paratroopers to our success in Europe. Gavin is painted in a very good light as well.

If you have any interest in studying military leadership and the 82nd Airborne in WWII, this book is a must."
If you want to contact Phil Rosenkrantz just click on his name and the forum will let you email him.

Regards,

Jim McNamara



QUOTE(admin @ Nov 25 2006, 02:33 PM) *
Stu,

Just searched my forum and found that Phil had posted this on here. In that Tank photo you can see his uncle. I still can't find it online.

"Another great new book that is about the 504 in Sicily is "Combat Jump" by Ed Rugerro. If it was reviewed somewhere else on this site, I missed it.

Awesome book and it even has a picture by a captured Tiger tank on the cover and inside that includes some H/504 guys, including my uncle.

The book is mainly about the 505, but 3/504 was attached to them in Sicily. The battle of Biazza Ridge is explained in detail...great stuff.

This book is a classic WWII paratrooper book. It really shares a lot about how Sicily proved the value of the paratroopers to our success in Europe. Gavin is painted in a very good light as well.

If you have any interest in studying military leadership and the 82nd Airborne in WWII, this book is a must."
If you want to contact Phil Rosenkrantz just click on his name and the forum will let you email him.

Regards,

Jim McNamara
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post Nov 27 2006, 11:43 AM
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I was under the impression that COMBAT JUMP was almost exlusively about the 505th rather than the 504. Of course I know that 3/504 jumped on the first night. I also saw (somewhere) that the 3/504 element was one of the few cohesive groups to land ANYWHERE near their assigned objective--which I believe was an airfield pretty far inland.
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post Dec 28 2007, 11:46 AM
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According to my reading, there were troopers from the 504th that made up the bulk of the force at Biazza Ridge. Also involved were the sticks from the 307 Airborne Combat Engineers that had landed near there.
Gavin found the 504 guys sitting around, and as I understand it, relived the Lt. Col on the spot for having his men sitting around. He then took that group of aobut 100 troopers and the 307th Engineers
to defend the road to Gela at Biazza Ridge. Mind you, I was not there and only have this info from Gavin's books.
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post Dec 30 2007, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(Thesoneofone @ Dec 28 2007, 07:46 AM) *
According to my reading, there were troopers from the 504th that made up the bulk of the force at Biazza Ridge. Also involved were the sticks from the 307 Airborne Combat Engineers that had landed near there.
Gavin found the 504 guys sitting around, and as I understand it, relived the Lt. Col on the spot for having his men sitting around. He then took that group of aobut 100 troopers and the 307th Engineers
to defend the road to Gela at Biazza Ridge. Mind you, I was not there and only have this info from Gavin's books.


It seems like I came across that story as well, not in a Gavin book, but in a Gavin approved book. I asked about significant Sicily actions by the 504th, in another thread on this site, after I had read that....
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post Jan 14 2008, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(Paul V. Mann III @ Dec 30 2007, 12:32 PM) *
It seems like I came across that story as well, not in a Gavin book, but in a Gavin approved book. I asked about significant Sicily actions by the 504th, in another thread on this site, after I had read that....


I think you may mean Major Edward Krause of the 3rd Btn of the 505th. He is the one whose men were dug in when Gavin came up. Gavin was somewhat critical of him in one of his books but I think it was a bum rap. Krause had been ordered to dig in and await further orders by someone from regimental staff before Gavin got there. He was following orders.
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post Nov 8 2009, 09:07 AM
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I think the 3rd BN Mortar Platoon of Lieutenant Peter J. Eaton ended up on Biazza Ridge.
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